Trentham de Leliva misattribution

One of the first names I checked in the Yates-Owen/Fournier BSPM Archive was Trentham de Leliva’s written mark. The monogram is made up of T d and L in his name (the d looks like a P, I’ve added a photo of it to Tentham de Leliva’s entry on the BISPM database). I was checking a number of handbuilt and extruded stoneware pots that have come onto the secondary market in recent years, which have an Ic or ID mark painted on the base in black oxide (see example in the Mystery Marks section). They purport to come from Trentham de Leliva’s time teaching in Brighton, but I haven’t found any evidence to support that claim, and they don’t match the style of pots that bear his T stamp. They also clearly have an I in the mark, where as Trentham’s monogram is a conjoined T and L; there’s no backstroke on the L, and his d is written in the opposite direction to the c or D in the mystery mark. I very much doubt Leliva would have given Yates-Owen an example of his mark that was a variation of the one found on the majority of these pots. These mystery pots look 60s-70s in origin, and may have come on to the secondary market as a job lot or two at auction. In my experience such job lots point to a student or hobby potter or their family having a clear out. Buyer Beware.